Is Ning the Next step?

I agree with rick

I agree with Rick "I´m just wondering is no one concerned about the risk of having your data hostede by others"

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Ning

Hi Christine,

and all You guys!!

Yes,  I think Ning could be the next step towards  the free Social Networking developement.

I believe in what Mark Andressen is doing: with Netscape, in 1994 he opened a New

world creating  "The Browser" .

Now, I think, he's doing the same with Social Networks.

Best,

PIetro Gentile

 

yes and no

I like Ning quite a lot. It isn't that flexible (they're tardy with promised updates), but the basic package is pretty comprehensive, and certainly worth having a play with.

I also like that they try to push off responsibility for publishing and administration onto the account holder - might reduce the number of times that users get kicked out randomly as happens in Facebooki. But it's still not totally safe. If Ning.com goes under, you'd lose the network as you can't migrate it away. If they get a legal letter from an aggrieved employer, they might just demand you edit or they'll shut down the community, as I can't see them getting totally out of responsibility for content they host. Mind you, this isn't tremendously different from the risk of your ISP shutting you down.

If all does go wrong, you can export a user list, but not your full content, and not in a format you can instantly use elsewhere.

One alternative is ELGG.org, where you can take a framework and develop around it, as it's open sourcei, but it's developing very slowly. Unionbook.org uses it.

There are 3 (big) advantages to Ning:

  • There's no development involved - you get an instant network (you need to have serious coders to use ELGG for example)
  • They host it for you. An active community sharing stuff like photos and docs might hammer your hosting provision.
  • There's a wider Ning community that can easily join your network (I'm in a couple of Nings already, and could just one-click join a new ones). This is obviously a much smaller constituency than Facebook users say, but may still be significant.

Risks

I´m just wondering is no one concerned about the risk of having your data hostede by others  - eg. distubition to 3 party, loss of data  etc.

it's all risky

It's very true Kristina. You can suddenly lose access to all your contacts and material, so unions should never over-rely on the commercial networks. Only today the group for the GUFs' international protest day for Iran on Facebooki has disappeared. Facebook (automated help) say technical fault - doesn't help any!

On subject of Ning, here's a network set up for Iran. Join up to see how easy it is to use and customise. http://greenwaveglobal.ning.com/

Though of course every web site is technically at risk. Legal threats to your ISP can get your site taken offline (as nearly happened to LabourStart over the Fremantle campaign, and has happened to UK campaigning blogigeris). Nobody much hosts their content themselves, so websites are a target for disruption.

Of course, when you hold the site sytem (like LabourStart do with UnionBook's open sourcei ELGG system), if your ISP closes you down, you can start the whole thing again somewhere else from last backup. That's something you can't do with Facebook or Ning.

 

 

Thanks!

Thanks  John,

for the very interesting analysis!

It could be very useful for us in the next future!

Best,

Peter